When you are looking for a puppy it is not easy. There are various venues that are available for a person to buy a dog and there are levels of expertise that come with those levels. We at Bajoron have over the years purchased dogs from other breeders and each time we realize that the breeder we purchase from does not have the buyer in mind when they sell.

We try to always remember what it is like to be the buyer. Our effort is to make it a clear consise, pleasant and easy process. We have learned what makes your experience as a buyer go smoothly and allows the buyer to relax and feel good about the entire experience. We try to do for you what the other breeders HAVE NEVER DONE FOR US EVER!!!!!! We try to make you part of the process.

In the last 47 years we have experienced so many scenarios with other breeders that we feel compelled to share, without names of course.. We wish that these things did not happen but they do and they have happened to us. . . and with us watching eyes wide open. . . .and it has NOT been pretty nor pleasant. What is even more dystopia in nature, is that many of these breeders have people who will endorse them and yet WE KNOW THAT THESE BREEDERS HAVE COMMITTED SOME VERY NEPHARIOUS ACTS or just plain to not care about what you think! We will not devulge names but if you are a sharp person you can see through the veil to reveal a breeder and their real personality and actions.

We want to say line bred lines are the most suspicious and if they have Hot shot, Hot rod, wind walker mulitple times that is a huge cause for concern. Do your homework and ask lots of questions. There is no price point that is without issue, cheap or expensive all breeders seem to need to be extremely vetted before you drop a deposit.

The number one situation you must not put yourself in is getting puppy fever. This means you find a puppy and immediately your heart skips a beat as you see yourself with this new puppy in happiness and bliss. Unfortunately PUPPY FEVER IS YOUR WORST ENEMY, FOLLOWED BY THE BREEDER WHO SEES YOUR DESPARATION AND USES IT TO SELL YOU A PUPPY!

Below is a collection of our nightmare stories. They are all true and unfortunately we lived them. Its no wonder we may sound jaded some times. We apologize.

Breeder 1: Let's start with the second Bouvier we owned. She was a tormented soul. That breeder unbeknowst to us, bred his bitch every time she was in heat. The puppies finally pushed the dam over the edge and the puppies were as a result "nuts". When the dam is stressed she passes this stress and agitation on to the puppies. You couple this with the fact that the Mom came from an insane female (her owner admitted that no one could control her but him) you have a mess. Did the breeder care? NO not at all. In fact not only were we victims but a person we met later in life had our dogs sibling, and she was mauled by SIBLING OF OUR dog and had to have reconstructive surgery for her bites. This breeder was paying his way through college.

Breeder 2: Learning the breed we did not know what was good and what was bad in terms of acceptable in the standard. The second breeder sold us a parti colored dog and the dog was a mental issue as well. NOT as bad as the insane dog we had from the second bouvier we were part of but he just was a nut from day one. Finally Erik Houttuin said to me, "Let that animal warm your feet he is not for the show ring" We called the breeder and they did feel bad about their actions. The breed said, "they sort of knew about the color and the temperament". They gave us a huge discount on our first show dog. Mind you she was supposed to be fawn in color but ended up being black as night. Note to self, may not want to buy another dogs from this breeder! This breeder has long since stopped breeding. We again had been dooped by a breeder.

Breeder 3: We co bred for a time to change up the pedigrees. This breeder was for lack of any other way to say it, a mess! We saw Them send dogs on the plane that had fleas, ticks, parasites (hook worms and other sorts of worms). Finally the straw that broke the camels back PARVO! We cut all ties and they purchased a sire from a very nice breeder in Virgina. That breeder soon after learned that her dog she sold to this messy breeder, was bred at 9 months old with no health testing run. The contract and promise was that the dog would health checked, and never breed till this was done and the tests were passing. Sadly this breeder refused to do so. This breeder is still breeding! The only reason we bred with him was the pedigree and we health tested ever dog they had ourselves paying the price for all the dogs we co bred with. For us it is a non negotiable MUST do act . . .HEALTH TEST.

To add and this is common amoung breeders saving money, They cut tails off with a shears. All shots were given at home and sometimes the power went out and the shots got warm (no issues she used them anyway), She did not take in a fecal to determine parasites and so her regimend of clearing the puppies of parasites did not work and they kept these parasites till they went to their new homes. They cheap, really cheap food but told buyers to feed premim diet. The puppies were not kept well and the dogs were equally as unkempt.

Breeder 4: Called to see if he could use our dog as a stud. Mind you I was on guard as he got our name from breeder number 3. When i asked him for health tests for the female he wanted our fully health tested AKC champion to breed with, His reply was, "I dont do that sh_t". Now understand at a later date, I had seen two Bouvier in a room at the vets office and they were trying to a breeding. I found out it was their male, that was trying to bite everyone he came in contact with. My inclination to not offer stud services to breeder number four, in hindsight was a good choice. This breeder is still breeding!

Breeder 5: I purchased a dog from this breeder and paid for the shipping. The breeder took my booking and used it for another dog's ship and I had to pay the airlines again. Because the airlines thought that my dog was being shipped to Missouri, and she had altered the intended destination and the shipper lost my dog and a simple 6 hour flight turned into a 30 hour ordeal.

To add Breeder number five has a website that lies about health testing, lies about the years in the breed, lies about being a breeder of Merit. got a phone call from this breeder years ago and thought that maybe they had altzheimers. I know how devastating of an illness this is, but NO the breeder has substance abuse issues and the losing my dog, and all the other issues that I have dealt with and this breeder tells me just how incredibly bad a choice it was.

This breeder bred mixed breed dogs and other breeds and yet some of the people she has sold to have not figured them out yet. The website is flashy, the declarations are to be frank so stellar you have to wonder how it is that their dogs are so Brilliant, healthy and they are so special? Yet there are but a handful of successful show champions if they have been in the breed for over 20 years. Any breeder who has been breeding long at least should have 10-15 titles on dogs that special.

Breeder 6: He took money from over 10 people for a litter that was never bred no had. He still owes us over $1200 dollars and to this day refuses to pay us back. Luckily we were able to get all the other buyers money back and the club did suspend him for 6 months. This breeder is still breeding! While we do isolate our dogs from backgrounds so that you can see the structure. This breeder has photo shopped his dog so much that it is obvious and you can see the lines of the PHOTO shopped dog and know he is not the best structure.

Breeder 7: There are a few breeders with substance abuse issues. While upfront they seem to hold it together, behind the scenes their world spirals out of control on a number of levels. Puppies do not get screened well, puppy choices for buyers are not well informed and often there are mistakes made. This breeder does participates in dog fancy but behind the curtain like the Wizard of OZ its all smoke and mirrors. This breeder has done other things too that we feel are not the best. This breeder is still breeding!

Breeder 8: This breeder bred their dog and when it was evident that their dog was part and party to causing a health issue, That breeder would not accept a phone call from the first breeder to even talk about it. When confronted later she said, "I was never told about the health issue" which she was, and she had continued to breed the male that helped to cause the issue.

Breeder 9: Had quite a few puppies and when they had many health issues, we were asked to call him because he had our dog in his puppies as a GR x 4 grand parent. When we called him to tel him that peoples dogs were sick, he said, "F*ck you!". He has since changed his kennel name and has made Their website look like they have the best dogs ever. They still do not health tes and claim parents of puppies need not be tested but the puppies are screened. They claim it doesnt work to health test parents. They also give the impression their training program makes the superior dog! NO pedigree, health testing and good solid choices make the best dogs!!!!

Breeder 10: Started delivering puppies for a breeder that no one seems to like. The only thing we can figure is after phone conversations where they wanted to purchase a "breeding pair' is that they "thought" that breeding was a money maker. While NO breeder needs nor should take a vow of poverty to breed, Breeding is not a quick road to riches NOW or ever. Breeding can break your wallet and your heart. Dogs are expensive, health testing and buying a dog with an excellent and what should be a historically healthy pedigree with good structure and temperament to match is expensive.

To add becoming a breeder in any breed takes years of knowledge and mentorship from a breeder who is willing to share their expertise and help you till they are so old they quit the breed. That said, this breeder thought that she could easily do and learn all aspects of breeding that takes a lifetime and squeeze the knowledge down so that it was easily digested and success would come immediately. Needless to say if it sounds too good to be true it is and we have gotten phone calls about this breeder and what the buyers end up with.

Breeder 11: This breeder has been breeding for over 25 years and the condition and the dogs produced have not improved EVER!!! They have a flashy website. It pulls at your heart strings as they give homage to veterans, God and the country life. Be aware while we are very greatful to our veterans we will not patronize them by utilizing them as a sales pitch! The kicker is this breeder never lets you come to their property to pick up! EVER in the last 25 years. The dogs and their health are never checked and if you get a dog with issues it would not surprise us as many of their dogs sold do have issues with various health concern areas.

Breeder 12: We purchased a Bouvier and loved the dog. It was perfect and told the breeder we wanted a sister to this dog. The short version is we got her and it turns out the breeder lied about the pedigree of the second dog we recieved. Every registration under the dogs were pulled by the AKC. It took months to find out who the sire and the dam really were and in the interim we found out and the pedigree is something we felt we did not want in our program, the sire had produced countless birth defects and so had the brother so we spayed her and a friend took her for a companion and we got to see her often as we loved her dearly but not her pedigree!

This same breeder sold a person who had one of our dogs two females. We had a strict agreement with the woman and so The quesitonable breeder said that the woman could substitute another males information as the sire of the litters she produced to the AKC for registrations. You see if you dont have the females name you can't report the litters to be DNA tested because they have false pedigree information. They really did not want to know if the litters were really the same as the pedigree that the breeder and this woman feigned were the actual sire and dam. The woman would never tell us the females name, even in a hearing. This breeder is without morals as it relates to breeding and the truth. Her comment to me was, "What do you care?"

The other thing that this breeder did was lie to me before this all started. She wanted a sire for the future. We chose the most amazing dog and everything was perfect about him. The day she got him she said his bite is off and so she sold him and would not tell us where he went. It was totally upsetting as we had someone who wanted him but we held to our word. While the situation was upsettign she also never paid us for him and so that sealed the deal this breeder is again not to be trusted EVER!!!!!

Breeder 13: Breeder 13: Years ago we had our first litters where we did not know the inheritance of heart and eye issues. We had a litter, health tested our female we kept and found her to have a heart condition. We talked to our mentors and soon found out how and why this happened. We called a Breeder who is still breeding and told them to NOT breed the bitch they had as ours had a heart murmur. Without even breathing the couple admitted that their specialist had found a murmur as well in the dog they got from us. We begged them to not breed her and at least go back and get a dopplar to find out the extent of the murmur. They never went back to get a dopplar only a osculation at a noisey clinic situation and so they did not hear the murmur and they bred her murmur and all. It may be anyone who has decendents of this dog but it is not the responsible thing to do and we were horrified.

Breeder 14: Breeder 14: This was a stroke of strange but we were in a vet clinic in another town because we were traveling. Our dog needed meds and of course the clinic needed to see her before they could prescribe. We ahd to give them our vets phone number so that they could substantiate our dogs health history and so the vet came in and talked with us and agreed but left to get a call in to our vet to talk to someone. The time we spent sitting and waiting seemed terminally long. While sitting there we heard people come and go times at least 8 or nine times. The second to last arrival and then they were placed in the exam room next to us. if you have ever been in a vet clinic and realized that the walls are practically paper thin you will understand the next set of facts. While sitting there the person who had gone in next door was talking to the vet. To our amazement it was said that the Bouviers this woman had, were stricken with Glaucoma. That of course made me listen even more intently. Then I heard a name and it was like hearing the worse set of admittances we have ever heard. The woman's dogs had been prescribed glaucoma drops. When the vet came back into the exam room the woman asked if they had a much bigger bottle of drops as she was putting them in many of her dogs eyes because of their diagnosis with Glaucoma as well. At this point we were just shocked. The vet said no they only come in this size and so you will we will have to provide multiple bottles to cover and she said the dogs names. By now i am just shocked and so when the person left the room, we cracked the door to substantiate who this person was. This was the shocking part it was a very well known breeder who always stresses health testing. Needless to say this breeder is on our extreme nauty list! While it sounds like an extremely bizarre set of circumstances we can say with honesty it happened and it was strange.

Breeder 15: Breeder 15 Collective breeder story: Our vets have told us that many people get health testing at their clinics and when they find out the dog has heart or eye issues they justify breeding the dog becasue they just have to. Our vets are sworn to secrecy as it is a private matter but they are often dissappointed in these folks as it is just not in their opinion the right thing to do to buyers. We agree.

Breeder 16: Breeder 16: We notice that Breeders give guarantees for health issues that crop up. First of all this should be such a rarity that there should be no need for discussion. However when we started asking questions of these breeders with Health guarantees the answers we recieved suggested that the breeders never intend to make good on their promises to the buyer. Essentially it was a hook to get you to buy from them and it was very eye opening for the answers we got.

Breeder 17: Breeder 17: Promises to take the dog back or arrange to have the dog transferred to a new owner if you can not keep the puppy or dog. Breeder 17 completely put the new buyer who could not handle the dog on their own and the new buyer had to find a new buyer or keep the dog rather than risk a shelter possibility. The breeder brags about this placment on their website and their facebook yet the placement was flawed and the dog was not fit for these people or vise versa. The pledge to try and rehome a dog from a breeder is a selling hook too.

Breeder 18: claims to be a "Breeder of Merit" of the SCbDF club (Southern California Bouvier des Flandres Club) since 2018. There is NO such accolade that can be claimed from the Southern California Club. This breeder also claims that ALL THEIR DOGS ARE CHIC (CANINE HEALTHY INDETIFICATION CERTIFICATION) yet when you check the OFA (orthopedica foundation website this claim is not true. The takeaway from this is check the AKC site type in breeder of Merit participants and you will get a list by state or you can type the person's name in. You can also go on to the OFA site and look for the dogs used and check for the hips, elbows, eyes and heart testing so you may see if their claims are accurate.

Breeder 19: The next one is not a breeder at all but pretends to be. These are the FACEBOOK ONLY BASED groups that are listed as (and this one is specific and we have an actual scenario for you. We received about 20 emails in a two to three day time period and all reported to Bajoron that one of our photos was on this site called, "BOUVIER DES FLANDRES FOR ADOPTION AND REHOMING" The sight upon observation looks ligit and has followers, posts, friends and administrators. The catch is that the person posted (see below for the post and explanation)

BOGUS POST ON THE WEBSITE		A PHOTO FROM OUR ARCHIVES TAKEN AT THE SAME TIME AT BAJORONS
	THERE IS no Serah Bright on Facebook and the gal who the fake person says she got her puppy from Sarah Kate is the scammer. The sight allows these posts so they are either a scam with multiple people involved or they are fake people and pages to uphold the attempt to get a deposit out of a future victim.

Not a week after the sight posted my bogus post they used a photo that i had in my archives. i saved it for a reason which i can not discuss but it is safe to say that the puppy photo was taken from facebook and the same scammers feign to have gotten this puppy and they want to name it. This elicits a need from the reader to want a puppy just like the one on the photo. At that point you Private message the author of the post and the scam begins. They groom you to make a deposit and send other photos and at that point you send 4-500 dollars and you never hear from them again or they can get you to send the entire amount and you have lost a lot of money.

What is the solution to this? Never deal with a Facebook entitity unless they direct you to their website, they call and talk with you. they can provide numerous references and they have all these things and they can be verified:

Breeder 20: We decided to look at a stud dog and he is nice, good pedigree but in our quest we were told about another Bouvier breeder in Florida that used him. That breeder in Florida did not have health testing on this dog and yet chose to breed anyway and sell the puppies to unsuspecting buyers. Much like the woman who bred to another stud up East this gentleman said the puppies were health checked and NO one challenged him. We are absolutely gob smacked that these other breeders get away with these shananigans!

here are more but we won't go on and on. Trust it is a jungle out there.

Everyone has an issue now and then, but the above Breeders all have issues regularly and in many areas. Mind you we could add about a dozen more scenarios to this list. The thing that all these breeders have in common is that they do not belong to many clubs let alone one club. There is one breeder who belongs to a breed local breed club that is NOT in their area. They do not belong to the national club and to add NO local all breed clubs in their area. Club membership teaches volumes and you sign ethics pledges when you join a club. Clubs make you aware of responsibility and keep you learning and active in Dog Fancy.

NO current mentors? Red flag. We will apologize but all our mentors have passed away and we are where they were when we first met them years ago. We have tried to mentor others and we still have three people we advise and try to help but we have learned that so many people think after 10 years they know it all and to be honest we did not even think about breeding and we were in the breed for over 15 years! There was so much to learn. We even had our mentors come to help us whelp the puppies. The lessons learned were invaluable. We mourn the loss of the Breeders we looked to for guidance. Many poor breeder have NOT had good solid mentors for a lifetime, they started breeding and either had no mentors or they did not pay attention to their mentors. They just did and did not realize how they affected others. . .nor do they ultimately care. They are under the impression that their actions are normal. Bajoron has kept in contact with each mentor and sadly all are passed away. Literally we had contact with each till they were no longer with us. We listened, We learned and while some advise was difficult to hear at time, you did not toss the relationship because in every conversation there are tidbits of wisdom. We inherited all the books, the artwork and the notes from our mentors and they are vast. Truly our treasured mentors taught us more than we even realized. . .as we look back at the 30 years of our relationships with them.

It is a jungle out there. It is hard to find a great dog and a great breeder that backs up that purchase. If they sounds too good to be true it probably is. If they say they health test, get proof. If they say that they OFA each dog go to the site and start looking type in the AKC number and check. This is easy to do and very easy to double check.

While many people say that you should visit the breeders home, in this day and age with all that has gone on with breeders being robbed and left for dead, if a breeder says, Yes come on over, you may want to rethink your choice. Breeders who have many different breeds is a red flag. People truly devoted to the breed you are looking at want to know that the breeder has the same interests. Breeders devoted can really not see themselves with any other breed. Its fine if you have a couple of breeds if you are a companion owner, but a breeder needs to focus.

Stars explanation:
MOSTLY APPLIES TO EARNED ACCOLADES
BUT CAN BE APPLIED TO HOW CONCERNED SHOULD YOU BE ABOUT A DETRIMENTAL CHARACTERISTIC?

DOESNT MATTER	SHOULD KNOW ABOUT	SHOULD BE AWARE OF	DEFINITELY	NECESSARY	ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY

We will suggest to you that the breeder should have at least the highly rated Accolades and Earned Accolades. Those items separate the serious breeders from the not as serious breeders. Whether you want a
dog to lay at your feet of run in the show ring with you, its important that you are happy and the best way to do this is to make good decisions when choosing a breeder for your next friend. Its not enough to just
have show champions or to know how to groom or even claim to have breed 5-15 litters, Anyone can do these things. Its doing all these things and doing them well so that they speak well for the breed,
and making your new best friend the best they can be. Anything less is not good enough!

A DETRIMENTAL CHARACERISTIC OR AN EARNED ACCOLADE?	What is your take away from this? Do your homework or call us, and start the process. Every breeder we have come in contact with that taught us what NOT TO DO, is a win for our buyers! Look for: (and each breeder should hold mutiple of these items below:	Importance 1-5 stars 5 most important
ACCOLADE	Upper level AKC Breeders of Merit, bronze silver etc (you can check by going on the AKC site and search under their current Breeders of Merit list and their level
EARNED ACCOLADE	Members of the National Club (American Bouvier des Flandres Club)
EARNED ACCOLADE	Breeder should have champions 15 at least (not just a champion but a champion that has been birthed by them and became a champion) purchasing a dog from someone else and finishing it is no badge of honor.
EARNED ACCOLADE	The breeder should have if breeding for 10 or more years about a champion a year and shown under owner handlers NOT professionals!
ACCOLADE	Look for mutiple BRED BY THE BREEDER champions that are finished champions (15 or more) and a Professional Handler was not used WHAT THIS TELLS YOU IS THAT A BREEDER CAN BREED TO THE STANDARD AND CAN PICK THE BEST DOG TO SHOW AND THEN KNOWS ENOUGH TO FINISH THE DOG IN THE SHOW RING. ALL SIGNS OF MASTERY
ACCOLADE	Look for a person who has been in the breed for over 15 years WHAT THIS TELLS YOU IS THAT THE BREEDER IF THEY ARE IN A BREED WITH A COUPLE OF THESE OTHER AREAS THEN THEY MAY KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE BREED. WE HAVE SEEN BREEDERS THAT DESPITE THEIR YEARS IN THE BREED ARE IGNORANT OF MANY THINGS THAT MAKE A LITTER SUCCESSFUL AND YOUR PURCHASE AND EXPERIENCE SMOOTH AND SEAMLESS.
EARNED ACCOLADE	Ask the breeder who their mentor is/ was and call that mentor to confirm WHAT THIS TELLS YOU IS THAT THE PERSON DID NOT JUST FALL IN TO THE BREED TO MAKE MONEY OR TO JUST BUSY THEMSELVES, THEY UNDERSTAND THE BREED AND MANY MANY ASPECTS OF THE BREED. YOU NEED TO TALK TO THE MENTOR TO ASK IF THE BREEDER LEARNED THE LESSONS TAUGHT. ITS NOT ENOUGH TO JUST SAY, "I WAS MENTORED" WHO WERE THE MENTORS? DO THEY AGREE?
DETRIMENTAL CHARACTERISTIC	Look for a home that has just Bouvier as many breeds is a red flag. If they were/are trying to breed mutiple breeds it is not a service to the breed you want. Our Veterinarian also holds the expert opinion that if a breeder has multiple dogs that a Mom and her puppies should not be subject to the other dogs in the home visiting and entering and leaving the whelping area. There are many reasons for this NOT being a safe or desirable practice. WHILE A BREEDER MAY HAVE A FEW BREEDS AND FOR YOU PEACE OF MINE IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THIS BREEDER TO RESPECT THE FACT A LITTER NEEDS TO BE CLOISTERED WITH MOM AND NOT BE PART OF THE GREAT COMMUNITY OF DOGS ROAMING THE HOME, ITS NOT A TOTAL DEAL BREAKER IF YOU SEE THE THE BREEDER KEEPS THE HOUSEHOLD PETS FROM JOINING MOM AND THE LITTER FOR WHAT THEY MAY ACTUALLY SAY IS SOCIALIZATION FOR JUSTIFICATION. REPRODUCTION VETS WILL TELL YOU THAT NEONATAL AREAS SHOULD NOT SHARE THE SAME AREAS THAT ADULT DOGS ARE LIVING.
EARNED ACCOLADE	Look for a person who has wide knowledge base has many of these attributes listed and knows a great deal about the breed from many sources and mentors. Needs to be able to speak to grooming, AKC SHOWING NOT OTHER VENUES, IPO, Obedience, Agility, Herding, Assistance and has dogs placed as this SUCCESSFULLY AND ALL OTHER VENUES. SHOULD HAVE CHAMPIONS IN ALL THESE VENUES. WHAT THIS TELLS YOU IS THE BREEDER HAS CHAMPIONS IN ALL AREAS OF THE BREED AND CAN CHOOSE A DOG AND BREEDS DOES THAT ARE WELL ROUNDED AND CAN EXCELL IN ALL AREAS.
EARNED ACCOLADE	Ask for references . The reason we only put two stars on this one is because a breeder can only provide good references if they choose and no breeder will send you a reference that is not good. To add they sometimes have friends stand in for them and claim to be buyers so this is not the best. Bajoron has a system that addresses both of these fake reference attempts and it is a sound method.
EARNED ACCOLADE	Look for not only the breeder to be in the National Club but a local all breed club as well, this shows some need to network and learn and give back to the community. WHAT MEMBERSHIPS TO MULTIPLE CLUBS TELLS YOU IS THAT THE BREEDER HAS SIGEND ON TO UPHOLD ETHICS AND IS A MEMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT THE BREED AS MUCH AS THEY SHOULD.
DETRIMENTAL CHARACTERISTIC	Look at their ads and website, if they make some grand claims like they guarantee, think again. Many times this is a way to bait you in. They have no intention of guaranting any issues
DETRIMENTAL CHARACTERISTIC	If they say they never have had any issues of illness or problems think again, no breeder is void of this issue it is all part of the job. THIS DECLARATION TRULY SHOWS THAT THE BREEDER IS NOT BEING HONEST WITH YOU PERIOD. THAT FACT ALONE SHOULD BE CAUSE FOR CONCERN.
DETRIMENTAL CHARACTERISTIC	If they say they use OFA check the OFA site for all dogs used to check and see what the truth is and if the claim is legitimate. YOu can even check siblings, aunts uncles and other related dogs. If they do not post on OFA ask why and talk extensively about this. WE will ALWAYS DISCUSS OUR POLICY ON HEALTH REPORTING. YOU NEED TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE DECLARATIONS THE BREEDER MAKES. FOR INSTANCE THERE ARE A FEW BREEDERS THAT CLAIM THE DOGS BRED ALL HAVE PASSING HEALTH TESTING AND YET WHEN YOU CHECK THEY ONLY HAVE HIPS OR ONE AREA AND THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH EVER!!
DETRIMENTAL CHARACTERISTIC	If they make grand claims about longetivity, No one is God and all bouvier get old and slow down at 10-11 it is just simple fact. WE DO NOT THINK THIS NEEDS A LOT OF EXPLANATION BUT BOUVIER CLASSICALLY DO NOT LIVE LONGER THAN 12 OR 13. ITS RARE AND ANY DECLARATION THAT IS OTHERWISE IS REALLY NOT BEING TRUTHFUL.
DETRIMENTAL CHARACTERISTIC	If they have working lines that may not be your best choice. Working lines usually means harsher temperaments. '
DETRIMENTAL CHARACTERISTIC	If they do not have a system in place for random endorsements dont believe set up endorsements. we at Bajoron have a system that addresses this need and is of illustration that we do not have "choosen" people that always say they are happy.
DETRIMENTAL CHARACTERISTIC	If the only mode of communicating is text THAT IS A HUGE RED FLAG.
PRECAUTION FOR BOTH PARTIES	If the person will not meet you at their home on their porch our advise is get your money back. BREEDERS SHOULD WANT TO MEET THEIR BUYERS ON HOME TURF AND TO ABSOLUTELY NOT OFFER THIS OPTION IS JUST NOT RIGHT. WHILE WE UNDERSTAND THAT BREEDERS WANT TO MAINTAIN THEIR HEALTH AND NOT BE EXPOSED TO THE MANY ILLNESSES THAT CAN PREVENT THEM FROM CARING FOR THE PUPPIES (AND THIS GOES BOTH WAYS) ANY BREEDER SHOULD WANT TO MEET YOU AND SIT DOWN AND TALK. ITS HUGELY IMPORTANT.
DETRIMENTAL CHARACTERISTIC	If anything feels wrong THAT IS A RED FLAG
DETRIMENTAL CHARACTERISTIC	While everyone gets confused sometimes . . . Be very suspicious of the breeders calling nad promising to call back and you get no return call Constant changing of their stories They call and then wait a long time and call back and it seems disjointed. Just recently we were trying to find a dog for our relatives that wanted to join us and keep a guardian dog to show and breed. We called the breeder, filled out the application and were honest with our time line and what we were looking for. The breeder was very interested and called back and we spoke. From that point we heard nothing till recently when they called and asked were we still interested and ready in the next week? Excuse me? The price changed, the dog available changed and it was like there was NO conversation or History of understanding in our past phone conversations. We declined as this was just too weird. Again if it sounds too good to be true. . . .it is.